Reciprocal Electrical Council Inc.

13 Jan 2011 1:16 PM

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RECI Office (Administrator)

Part 8 Rules

13 Jan 2011 10:50 PM

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Tony Tomasin (Administrator)

Do the Part 8 Rules allow flexible metal conduit to be used as an equipment grounding method?

14 Jan 2011 10:09 PM

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HR

Tony Tomasin wrote:
Do the Part 8 Rules allow flexible metal conduit to be used as an equipment grounding method?

250.118. Types of equipment grounding conductors. The equipment grounding

conductor run with or enclosing the circuit conductors shall be 1 or more or a

combination of the following:

(1) A copper, aluminum, or copper-clad aluminum conductor. This conductor shall

be solid or stranded; insulated, covered, or bare; and, in the form of a wire or a

busbar of any shape.

(2) Rigid metal conduit.

(3) Intermediate metal conduit.

(4) Electrical metallic tubing.

(5) Flexible metallic tubing where the tubing is terminated in listed fittings and

meeting both of the following conditions:

(a) The circuit conductors contained in the tubing are protected by overcurrent

devices rated at 20 amperes or less.

(b) The length of flexible metallic tubing in the ground return path does not exceed

1.8m (6 feet).

15 Jan 2011 9:40 AM

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Tony Tomasin

That is the correct answer but just as a reference there is also a second place that mentions this topic. It is found here:

ARTICLE 348

FLEXIBLE METAL CONDUIT

348.60. An equipment grounding conductor or equipment bonding jumpers shall be installed. Equipment grounding conductors shall be installed in accordance with section 250.134(B) of the code. Equipment bonding jumpers shall be installed in accordance with section 250.102 of the code.

R 408.30867

18 Jan 2011 4:28 PM

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Tony Tomasin

Do the same rules apply in the Part 8 Rules for unsupported raceways between panels and boxes as in the NEC?

20 Jan 2011 8:43 AM

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Anonymous

When is the State going to wise up stop letting mechanical contractors pull electrical reconnect permits? 75% of the jobs are improper !!!

20 Jan 2011 8:48 AM

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Dave Lusn

Anonymous wrote: When is the State going to wise up stop letting mechanical contractors pull electrical reconnect permits? 75% of the jobs are improper !!!

Why don't the state allow electrical contractors to pull mechanical permits?

21 Jan 2011 5:00 PM

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Tony Tomasin

Excellent question Dave. As electrical inspectors we’ve seen a lot more electrical violations when mechanical electrical work is done by a mechanical contractor versus an electrical contractor. When I do these inspections I make sure I hold a mechanical contractor to the same standards I would an electrical contractor and I think we all should. I’m not saying all work done by a mechanical contractor is inferior because there are some qualified firms out there but proportionately I have found their electrical violation ratio is higher than that of electrical contractors. Perhaps this is a good opportunity for RECI to offer training to mechanical firms on the most common violations we find. I will bring it up at the next education committee meeting. Thanks for the reply.

Tony